Thursday, August 09, 2007

Talents, what are they good for?

Absolutely nuthin!

I know what you're saying, "I love talents!"

Sure, we all do. But why do they need to be different from feats?

Can anyone tell me the difference between a talent and a feat? Besides just "they do different stuff"?

What's the balance? How many talents equal a feat balance wise?

According to the "Plus" feats from d20 Future, a feat is worth two talents.

Does anyone believe this? I actually think talents are a little BETTER than most feats myself (which makes those "Plus" feats whacked, but that's a story about another horse).

Anyway, as you can probably guess, talents are out. OUT!

Classes will give a feat every level, like True 20.


Prest0 said...

I haven't read True20, but it seems like a feat at every level would lead to bloat at higher levels.

"Let's see. I rolled a 10, but my BAB is +6, this feat gives me +1 in close range, this feat adds +2 if he's encumbered with a 2-handed weapon, and this feat lets me use my dodge bonus as attack bonus, but I can't use this feat other feat because he's wearing yellow."

Charles said...

Well, you have to keep in mind though that True 20 has no class abilities and no talents.

Everything is a feat.

FraserRonald said...

Now I'm a big fan of talents as something special to a class but not as constricting as feats. That said, the True 20 version of talents as feats, given the simplification of the class system, seems like a fair idea. Access to more powerful talents could still be through a "path," just as already appears in most talent trees.

Daniel M. Perez said...

I'm with you, Charles; I don't see the point of Talents, nor do I see them as 2x1 vs. feats. They're just a class ability like any other.

Steve said...

About the only real benefit of differentiating talents from feats that I can see is limiting progress and access.

For example, Star Wars Saga has a talent, feat, talent, feat, progression, which means you can rightly assume a character can't get a talent that has one other talent as a pre-requisite until 3rd level (when the character gets a second talent) vs. 1st level, when the character has access to more than one feat.

That said, there are other ways to limit access than the talent/feat split.

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